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Post by Kingdoms of Cal on Feb 10, 2007 22:34:22 GMT -5
A bird (ensemble type aircraft) touches down in Naraemat on board was a small diplomatic team from the foreign office of cal. They had been sent to organize trade and diplomatic agreements with the Naraemat government.
They were lead by a Teerie named Ta he was short for a teerie being less than five foot ten. But he hoped that this might be his big brake, as setting up trade agreements and diplomatic accords would advance his career.
Naraemat was an obvious nation for Cal to ally with, it being close and apparently open to approach. As they land Ta wonders who he will meet, his schedule was already bulging with local business types. He was hoping to get to the governing faction of the nation, but this was just a passing chance, so they may not be receptive as yet.
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Post by Varro on Feb 10, 2007 23:20:40 GMT -5
Almost the instant after stepping from his plane and into the airport at large, he is greeted by a bright red feathered avian-type. Flanking him are two rodents decked in cliche' bodyguard-black. She steps forward and offers her hand forward to shake. "You must be Taw," she says formally, "If you'll just come with us, we can get strait to any business. Mr. Ryan here will take your luggage for you." She ends this pointing to the bodyguard on her left.
As you hand your suitcases over and follow along side them, you notice there are three rodent tails following behind the group.
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Upon leaving the airport, you are escorted to a black limousine. The rat-tailed bird hold the door open for Ta. After seating herself inside as well, the vehicle takes off. You contemplate for a moment if you've just been kidnapped when your 'captor' breaks the silence.
"I'm sorry if we're going a bit fast for you. We've been a little out of the loop while Moore was in office, so everyone in diplomatic relations is a bit ecstatic." she states rather rapidly. Almost as an afterthought, she adds, "Oh yes, I'm Faye Gates."
Faye sits on the opposite end as you, a short table taking up the mid-space. Her rodentine tail crosses her lap in the same casual manner as someone crossing their legs. "So, are there any question you want to ask before we arrive? We have a good thirty minutes before we get there."
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Post by Kingdoms of Cal on Feb 13, 2007 23:58:04 GMT -5
*perspective switched*
Ta looks at you he should be showing some kind of note to your odd appearance but fails to. He himself is waring a gray suit and his tail lyes twitching beside him, It is apparent he is a skunk but you have never seen a tall green one before.
Ta pulls a bottle from his bag and a couple of glasses. He pours a dram each, and says "Well I would ask if you drink, or if it is even legal here, but I a diplomat...I believe such is allowed?".
"Right to business, could you pick up the rest of my people from the airport, they are very likely to wonder where I have gone."
You nod noting a possible diplomatic fo-pa that was being ignored.
"Right to business, things have kicked off quicker than expected so shall we assume that and exchange of ambassadors is in order?" Ta asks
You nod more out of shock that anything.
"Right where do you want your new diplomatic quarter, we can move fast."
You look a little shocked you do not have the rank to approve this.
"Oh yeah the Bird is still Calie soil, as all diplomatic craft, they are likely to get very snippy if you try and board it."
You get more than a little concerned about this.
"Get on the phone may as well strike while the irons hot, hadn't we?" Ta ends
You get on the phone, Ta gets on a comm, he speaks:
"Yeah I'm find, they're a bit keen.......no probs......no reason.....Yuactual,yudh.......ne......cool"
He mouths "accommodation" to you
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Post by Varro on Feb 14, 2007 20:01:56 GMT -5
Gates takes the glass of Dram and prepares to sum up the answers to your questions. "Your people have already been contacted and informed by now; We have a special schedule for your first day here. We'll show you were we want your embassy to be located once the initial proceedings are over, and I don't believe anyone will attempt to board your plane."
"As for accommodations, they may be discussed in detail later. Needless to say, Naraemat will cover the expense."
"Will there be any more questions before we meet with the Miokalian ambassador?"
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Post by Kingdoms of Cal on Feb 15, 2007 20:09:42 GMT -5
Ta drains his glass and smiles, "Very efficient of you and your people, I see no more issues to discuss before we proceed." he says as he pours himself another dram
"If you will forgive me for a second, I just have to re-organize a couple of things." Ta continues and with this pulls out a small laptop, opens it and flips the screen round and closing it. Turning the machine into a tablet. He taps the side and a long stylus springs out the top.Ta pulls it out the remainder of the way. He scribbles some thing on the screen then taps the screen a couple of times, frowns, mutters something, then taps the screen again and scribbles a few more things. Then taps the screen one final time.
He then smiles and says "Right that's the 'paper work' out the way, just making sure every thing is organized. Just switching my paperwork from business related stuff to more diplomatic matters". He then smiles, turning the machine back into a laptop and closing it.
"I don't know how we managed without these things, they make life so much easier. It'll have got everything I need by the time we get to the Miokalian ambassador, providing the people back home are awake. Another drink? Oh yes, do you have any questions for myself?" he finishes.
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Post by Varro on Feb 16, 2007 21:27:50 GMT -5
"I don't know how we managed paperwork without computers. Perhaps we simply threw paper airplanes to each other?", Faye jokes as she takes another drink.
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The two diplomats arrive at a tall office building near the center of the city. The emblem above the doors proclaim it property of the Naraemat Crown. You are guided up to the thirtieth floor, where the Miokalian delegate awaits near a conference table. "Please, have a seat."
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The two diplomats arrive at a large office building. Above the entrance is the emblem of the Naraemat Crown, declaring it a government building. Faye leads you to the thirtieth floor and into a windowed room with a conference table and the Miokalian ambassador. "Please, have a seat." she instructs as she sets down her briefcase and passes a light folder to the other two. "This the general outline of the alliance we wish to propose. We feel we all have much in common, and where we do not, we compliment each other quite well. This treaty will cover trade, immigration, and defense of our nations, as well as a few individual endeavors, and eventually incorporate all of the southern nations of this continent. If you'll allow, we'll briefly cover each main point and establish our stances on each, and deliberate in full tomorrow."
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"The industries of Naraemat are growing rapidly, and with our new foreign policy, will quickly seek to expand into other markets aggressively. In the past our citizens have been suspicious of foreign trade, typically putting a quick end to any endeavor for outside corporations to establish themselves. We want to insure they receive this opportunity, but at the same time, we do not wish to create a trade imbalance. To this effect, we would like to arrange a minimum import from each nation of fifteen billion NSD annually."
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"We would like to propose a general 'Free Movement' between the citizens of our nations."
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"We would like to establish a Mutual Defense Agreement though the alliance."
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"Regarding the space initiatives of Miokalia and Naraemat, Naraemat would like to claim the three Galilean moons of Europe, Ganymede and Callisto for material in the terraforming Venus, and movement of Io into orbit around Venus as a moon."
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"It is the desire of this arrangement to jointly reach out to other nations to create a better world. In this light, we would like to arrange one hundred billion in for general humanitarian aid to 'Tee-three-ach' Furry, restoration of the land of Prismwind, provide medicine and food to Tinis, and help stabilize the goverments of Tsunari, Appennini, Kien-Ohk, Chapelon and Caldarvier."
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Post by Kingdoms of Cal on Feb 16, 2007 21:48:13 GMT -5
Cal is happy to join SOTO (Southern Ocean Treaty Organization) mutual defense alliance, in principal. But as a major contributer, some defense contracts might get this though the parliament?
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We have no major interest in off world plans so are willing to trade such things for fishing and mineral rights here. We are capable of manned flights but are not interested.
Providing you leave our quiet cheap and lucrative satellite marked....not our probs...or see above.
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Free move ment of goods and labour is not a problem in principle.
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The last bit crashed Ta's computer
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Ta expertly folds paper into a well designed aircraft that does an exact 320 degree turn and hits Faye directly in the ear.
Ta smiles and says "Don't ever say a glider is of no use, in a skilled hand they still work"
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Post by miokalia on Feb 28, 2007 17:35:25 GMT -5
Plumaas Sozar, the selected ambassador from Miokalia for the SOTO organization, selected and assigned before the treaty was even signed, said,
"I suppose our inorganic counterparts won't have a problem with Io, the Galilean moon they were wanting to use for resource purposes being reloacted to a much closer location to be used as a satellite gravity ballast for another terraforming project...
It's not like Io is very suitable for anything but resource acquisition anyway, there isn't a drop of water on it and it's full of molten silicate.
Though I must ask, how is it that you plan on moving the densest moon in this solar system such an enormous distance? Not to mention the other Galilean moons as well.
If you were looking at us for this ability, I am sorry to dissappoint you.
Coaxial doesn't work with anything heavier than a commercial jet, even then, that's about the absolute maximum right there. There is no way to move a celestial body of such scale with that technology.
I suppose the Malych have all kinds of solar-sail kinds of systems... but those are unbeleivably difficult to construct... and for a moon? That is beyond their abilities as well.
I assume you all have a theory for how to accomplish this?"
Plumaas is light blue raptor with blue feathers and purple eyes. She is technically a minority since most saurs in Miokalia were warm or earthtone-colored. Such as the allosaurus accompanying her,
Haciato Loysh, who is orange and brown. He is a non-domestics trade-adjuster with the Commerce and Sustainability Apparat.
He said,
"Do understand that our definition of 'economic efficiency' is not the same one that is compatible with the typical implementation of 'free trade'.
Just because it is 'more efficient' in the material sense, doesn't mean it is accomplishing anything positive.
Be aware that to start doing business, specifically industrial business, in Miokalia may be an arduous and unrewarding effort to start things up. Or it can be a walk in the park, it depends entirely on the business.
I beleive it would be beneficial to your industries and businesses if they choose to import energy from us. Doing so would allow you to reduce the cost to business substantially, without eliminating sections of the workforce.
THAT is economic efficiency.
We will import your consumables, we have little, if anything to lose by chosing to import such items from abroad. Our rule regarding automobiles and specialized manufacturing is simple: If you want to distribute without tariff in our country, then you build a factory there. And likewise, if one of ours wants to distribute with less restriction in your country, then they must build a factory here.
That way, jobs are created in both places, and companies get the markets they want.
On another matter:
It is a very strict federal law where I'm from that no electronics or consumer technology company is permitted to comply with information and media censorship practices in other countries. That includes: nation-wide internet content filters and the logging and transmission of information to assist with the enforcement of information regulation practices.
But I doubt that applies to anyone here."
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Post by Varro on Mar 2, 2007 20:24:35 GMT -5
"Glad to see you agree." says Faye with a clenched beak. She shortly nurses her ear before returning to business.
"Mr. Loych, Naraemat does have the same features and concerns regarding trade. Free trade is not a desirable objective for us, as there would be no benefit to any of our parties at this point. An import of energy would be greatly accepted, however, and allow us to phase out the remaining coal-burning plants without a loss in the grid."
"We would not desire to censor the flow of electronic communication in any manner."
"We did not begin the project with the assumption of Miokalia's assistance, Mr. Sozar. We have a vague plan in the works, but it does not need to be settle on for at least another eight hundred years. You should have one thousand years to retrieve what you desire from the moons, but we do request leave of the water of those moons by that time."
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Post by Varro on Mar 16, 2007 18:53:32 GMT -5
Southern Ocean Treaty Organization
Those undersigned, representing their respective nations, agree to the following;
-Of The Treaty Itself
It is agreed that all participating shall follow the terms, or else be removed from the treaty and all benefits that follow.
At any time, any amendment may be added, changed, or removed from the treaty upon agreement of two-thirds of the nations undersigned
-Of Military
A standing force will be supported by the undersigned at all times to coordinate military efforts in the case of defense.
To this, the following will be contributed upon the signing of the treaty; 100,000 armed soldier, 50 Special Operations Units, 7 Airships, and 300 Oxidization Acceleration Cannons by Naraemat, 10,000 Mechanized Units from Miokalia, and 1 Carrier Group from Cal.
The signed nations shall participate in each others mutual defense. In the case that one should be assaulted by a foreign power, all others shall come to aid.
Bases may be borrowed by all members from each other on a Knock-for-Knock basis, in which the lending nation will waive claims to government property by the borrowing government, though individual claims may be made.
The signed nations will participate in keeping their respective intelligence agencies in contact with each other.
All nations signed will have the right to pursue criminals or otherwise into each others territories.
In no case except unanimous agreement shall the use of Weapons of Mass destruction be authorized by any of the signed nations.
-On Civilian Matters
International Copyright between the signed nations shall apply only to those capable of singular assessment. No copyright may be held internationally by a group.
Copyright shall be preserved internationally to the extent of 75 years.
No patent may be held internationally for any non-tangible application.
There shall be no manipulation within the processing of data in any nation.
-On Foreign Policy
Aid shall be provided on a case by case basis by the collective ability of the signed nations to nations in political, economic, or social conflict.
No foreign nation shall be given aid if it should not provide the basic rights of its citizens, if it oppresses them, or otherwise comits injustice towards its populous.
All nations signed will allow for the free movement of all people between them.
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The paper sits before the delegates as they collectively go over the wording. Now, if ever, they may edit, add, or exclude the opening clauses to be included in the treaty.
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Post by Kingdoms of Cal on Mar 16, 2007 20:39:58 GMT -5
Hmmm ta samiles...."Treaties are a matter of commitment not the little matters....let me look"
"Southern Ocean Treaty Organization
Those undersigned, representing their respective nations, agree to the following;
Insert some high belief stuff, that goes well with the people.
Change that to those the undersigned shall abide by the following
-Of The Treaty Itself
It is agreed that all participating shall follow the terms, or else be removed from the treaty and all benefits that follow.
Change that to "What has been agreed is self evident and those that do not believe or break this truth shall be expelled from the benefits of this."
That always makes a treaty trickier to break from.
At any time, any amendment may be added, changed, or removed from the treaty upon agreement of two-thirds of the nations undersigned
Hmmm Two thirds only requires two nations, change that to :"Amendments may only be agreed by all of the people's within this Treaty"
-Of Military
A standing force will be supported by the undersigned at all times to coordinate military efforts in the case of defense.
Change that to "A defensive force of such a power as is required shall be given to the organization by it's members should it be required, should one member find it self under attack with out cause or reason."
To this, the following will be contributed upon the signing of the treaty; 100,000 armed soldier, 50 Special Operations Units, 7 Airships, and 300 Oxidization Acceleration Cannons by Naraemat, 10,000 Mechanized Units from Miokalia, and 1 Carrier Group from Cal.
I would change this to "The government's of the Treaty will provide at least the following: 100,000 armed soldier, 50 Special Operations Units, 7 Airships, and 300 Oxidization Acceleration Cannons by Naraemat, 10,000 Mechanized Units from Miokalia, and 1 Carrier Group from Cal, with a number of other forces on call at all times including forces that lye at their disposal at the time of an attack. Upon the membership of new members a similar force shall be required."
The signed nations shall participate in each others mutual defense. In the case that one should be assaulted by a foreign power, all others shall come to aid.
See above
Bases may be borrowed by all members from each other on a Knock-for-Knock basis, in which the lending nation will waive claims to government property by the borrowing government, though individual claims may be made.
I would phase this as "All bases are to be used as common, and all incurred costs should be absorbed by the host nation on a common basis"
The signed nations will participate in keeping their respective intelligence agencies in contact with each other.
"The sharing of pertained information is required, where it does not cause the security of a nation to be questioned. How ever doing so must have reasonable cause."
All nations signed will have the right to pursue criminals or otherwise into each others territories.
"All nations will allow law officers to traverse their boundries, with the prosier that the nations involved have agreed on the illegality of the charge"
In no case except unanimous agreement shall the use of Weapons of Mass destruction be authorized by any of the signed nations.
"Under not circumstances shall weapons of mass destruction be sponsored by the alliance."
-On Civilian Matters
International Copyright between the signed nations shall apply only to those capable of singular assessment. No copyright may be held internationally by a group.
Copyright shall be preserved internationally to the extent of 75 years.
No patent may be held internationally for any non-tangible application.
There shall be no manipulation within the processing of data in any nation.
That could be better phrased, but is agreeable.
-On Foreign Policy
Aid shall be provided on a case by case basis by the collective ability of the signed nations to nations in political, economic, or social conflict.
No foreign nation shall be given aid if it should not provide the basic rights of its citizens, if it oppresses them, or otherwise comits injustice towards its populous.
All nations signed will allow for the free movement of all people between them.
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The paper sits before the delegates as they collectively go over the wording. Now, if ever, they may edit, add, or exclude the opening clauses to be included in the treaty.
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Post by miokalia on Mar 17, 2007 1:14:34 GMT -5
Plumaas seemed very disappointed as she took a phone call. She briefly looked at Ta for a moment and then said something into the phone and then said something to Haciato.
Haciato looked very displeased.
He muttered something and then, from that point on, the stopped making eye-contact with Ta.
"Okay, what just happened?", asked the bewildered, but suspicious Ta.
"Your nation just handed out free weapons and military resources to tribal militias as a reward for their service.", said Plumaas looking down,
"While I know it isn't your decision, I am afraid this is going to stall our process of accepting this treaty.
To us, that act shows that your government doesn't really seem to take peace very seriously.
As long as people have to take up arms to change things in their government, your nation will never escape the tragedies of civil war.
Reward your loyalists, but reward them with something other than the means to undo all they fought for"
She then looked to the side and Haciato said, "Loyalists or not, now they have weapons and if they decide they don't like Tel for whatever reason one day, they'll be using them.
And you will have military conflict, inside your nation.
The treaty was already on hold because of the Acta matter... but this is causing us to seriously scrutinize this in respect to our principles.
I know, it's your country... And it's not your personal decision.
I'm sorry but Andertol will have to review this, and right now, I can pretty much assure you he won't be thrilled."
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Andertol set the copy of the treaty on the corner of his desk and placed a call to Prime Minister Salato.
"Miss Salato, I know we have very different ways of doing some things, with what I thought for a long time was a similar goal.
I think I'm beginning to doubt if that is the case now.
Let me give it to you straight Salato: Right now there is a bill in our upper house calling for provisions to build a Berlin-Wall of sorts on the border of Emayshira on Emass.
That's because our feathery friends down there are scared shitless that those faction militias your arming are going to do what independent carreer militia warriors tend to do when they get bored: become mercenaries.
Specifically, become mercenaries hired to fight guerilla skirmishes on Emass which threaten the stability of the island.
So they want a wall. They want a 20-foot high wall.
I'm not going to tell you how to run your country but...
At this point, you are going to have to find a very good reason to stop me from signing this bill if it shows up on my desk. And SOTO isn't going to work like this.
Now this is aside from the fact that the act basically provides the means and materials for domestic faction warfare in your country regardless of if these materials are distributed to factions which happened to be loyal in the last conflict.
This situation is also known as: civil war.
I would hope your people are not so quick to forget that war is tragedy and misery. And that form of 'glory' in the history books is an illusion, a filtering of details caused by hindsight.
By all means, reward those loyal to the commonwealth... but could you do it in a way which at least tries just a little bit to show a commitment to peace?
I'm not signing SOTO until you can assure me that your nation is not going to decend into civil war again.
I want to trust you, I really do. But this militarism and assault-rifle-waving business is making it very difficult to do so."
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Post by Kingdoms of Cal on Mar 17, 2007 9:04:16 GMT -5
Salato sighs, then says "The way the act has been spun to the media is different from it's actual purpose. The simple fact is that since the civil war cal has been awash with weaponry and groups totally out with government control"
"The problem is with the tribal forces and increased number of militia groups that have never been under any real governmental control, the territorial units are just weekend warriors and under direct army control. The biggest problem is the tribal forces especially the desert drewen that are very independently minded and quite often aggressive towards each other."
"With the act we hope to make them reliant on the government controlled armories rather than at current where they have there own weapon stores. We could try and cease these but this would probably result in violence and would not be too popular."
"We have had to spin it in such a way that the tribal forces and militias would accept it on mass. We also had to offer them some reason to abandon their current stores of weaponry, so offering them better weaponry was the obvious solution. The only detail that they, with luck, will not notice is that the bill allows the executive control of the armories and more importantly the magazines, the weapons provided require specialist ammunition which we will have total control over, it will be provided free but in limited quantity. Thus will in time will allow us to remove their means to fight should they decide to cause problems."
"As for the training, along with the usual military training we will also try and get them into some semblance of a normal structure and over time bring them into the more main stream territorial units."
"This is more of a long term plan and is not perfect, but it should stabilize the current situation. I believe a more authoritarian action would probably have been more to your liking but it would simply not work. We do have similar goals, but we go about them differently."
"As for militarism the size of the calie army has never been smaller and is becoming increasingly dependent on territorial units, this act may also provide much needed additional units as there is only so much that can be asked of the current territorial units."
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Post by miokalia on Mar 17, 2007 16:16:22 GMT -5
Andertol said,
"Well it sure seems media both here and there took a great deal of liberty with this.
The Emayshira wall bill just failed, by the way. It didn't get past even two rounds of debate.
I apologize for referring to this as 'militarism and assault-rifle-waving business', but at the time, that's what it looked like.
And yes, when it comes to weapons, I do prefer authoritarian actions. Weapons aren't free expression, The right to kill isn't a civil right.
From what I understand of this: these militias don't plan to disband and they've wanted weapons in the first place. And it's either you give them proprietary weapons which you can regulate the ammunition for, or they acquire them from elsewhere.
Emayshira is still not happy, because I don't think they will trust Cal ever. They still want a wall even though I have strongly suggested to them otherwise. They may choose to build one without federal funding on their own. They do have local government which can do that sort of thing on their own, of course.
I will keep the SOTO ball rolling then.
Now the only thing we need to have worked out is the matter involving the Acta. But that's being worked out by others right now."
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Post by Kingdoms of Cal on Mar 17, 2007 19:35:35 GMT -5
Salato replies "The media was meant to take the bate, well the tabloid media that these people are lightly to follow. Don't take what we feed the media as fact in future, our way of government is much more subtle than that."
"Holding power here is always a balancing act and I don't hold a grudge as to the way outsiders view my actions....If I did that I would have a grudge against every government in the fed."
"The tribal leaders already know what the plan is, none are stupid, but they quite like their positions."
"As to the Acta we are totally non-plussed about what is going on with them."
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